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Post  Isaac on Tue Feb 01, 2011 12:06 am

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Re: Romans 1

Post  Kevin on Tue Feb 01, 2011 12:09 am

Hey guys, hope your week so far has been good!
Here's what I got from Romans 1.

18 But God shows his anger from heaven against all sinful, wicked people who suppress the truth by their wickedness.t 19 They know the truth about God because he has made it obvious to them. 20 For ever since the world was created, people have seen the earth and sky. Through everything God made, they can clearly see his invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature. So they have no excuse for not knowing God.

21 Yes, they knew God, but they wouldn’t worship him as God or even give him thanks. And they began to think up foolish ideas of what God was like. As a result, their minds became dark and confused.

The people in this passage knew EVERYTHING that God had done for them because he made it completely obvious whereas for us, it is not. But these people took God for granted. Even though they knew 100% that God existed and did great things for them, they pushed him aside and turned to their sinful and evil ways. They made idols even though they knew God existed and relied only on themselves. The people in this time were able to see Jesus walk the Earth with them and I'm sure that we all know that without faith, there can't be doubt. They literally saw Jesus and chose to go their own ways. It's different for us, we never saw Jesus so yes, there definitely is doubt. But there is definitely also faith. But I'm not saying that just because we may have small doubts of God, we should live wrongly and say " since I'm not sure God is there, I should live like it's not our fault we indulge in sin because we never SAW God unlike the people in the past". Instead, we should live with the mentality that even though we never saw our God, living a life that satisfies God is much more meaningful because we're not believing through our five senses, we're believing through faith. And to be honest, I think to believe in God through faith, is much more meaningful than to believe through sight.

25 They traded the truth about God for a lie. So they worshiped and served the things God created instead of the Creator himself, who is worthy of eternal praise! Amen.


This verse stuck out to me a lot because I realized that we can get very carried away with the things that God created and not give God the full undivided attention that he deserves. God created this world, and this world has so much sin to offer up to us. Our world is full of sin and things that bring us pleasure. But we shouldn't love the world, we should love our God and everything we do here, should be for God. For example, as we are all in the praise team, we sometimes may get carried away in the music that we forget it's ALL about God. I think we're honestly so blessed to have the privilege of leading others into worship, and we should definitely not take this for granted, and focus on God only. Always remember, it's not about the music at all, a praise team that isn't as musically good but with LOTS of passion towards God, is better than a praise team that is musically talented but with not much passion because remember, at the end of the day, everything we do is for God, not for us.

Haha that's what I got from this chapter!
See you guys Friday!
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Re: Romans 1

Post  josephpaik on Tue Feb 01, 2011 12:10 am

First of all how was everyones week!
finally exams are done -_-

Romans 1
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To all in Rome who are loved by God and called to be saints: Grace and peace to you from God our Father and form the Lord Jesus Christ.

This verse spoke to me when it said for those who are loved by God, grace and peace to you from God our Father and form the Lord Jesus Christ. I really thought about it, and i asked myself: Why did it say to all in "Rome"? Doesn't God love everyone and give them grace and peace? So i just thought about it and came to the conclusion that everyone is loved by our Father whether they love him back or not. And grace and peace will be brought upon everyone, not only Rome or a group of people. Everyone.

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I am not ashamed of the gospel, because it is the power of God for the salvation of everyone who believes: first for the Jew, then for the Gentile.

This verse really got me because everyday when i look around, i see Christians. Now that i think of it, how many of those Christians are not ashamed of their beliefs and strong enough to go up to anyone and tell them that they are not ashamed of the Gospel. In my perspective, not many people are patriotic about their beliefs and to see such a few amount able to stand up for their beliefs really gets to me. I even ask myself if i'm ashamed of the gospel. There are some days when i am and some when i'm not. So i think we should all not only go to church to worship and praise the Lord, but also spread the gospel to others because it is the power of God for the salvation of everyone who believes. IT is our belief and we should be proud of what we live for in life and do something about it.
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Re: Romans 1

Post  jennifer on Tue Feb 01, 2011 12:22 am

HELLO guysss
how were all of your mondays??? i hope they were as great as mine!
haha SO from Romans 1 i liked/learned:
6 And you also are among those Gentiles who are called to belong to Jesus Christ
I know it's a short quote but it meant a lot to me. It showed me that Jesus didnt just say "everyone is called to belong to me", Jesus called each and every one of us out of the millions of people out on Earth to be have a relationship and to be his child. This shows the tremendous care and love he has for us. And i know people keep repeating this over and over again, that God loves you, he cares for you, he really wants to be in a relatinoship with you, but truthfully, it gets kind of numbing and it doesnt really mean anything to me. I think that this passage makes it a bit more real? i guess? it warms my heart
18 The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness, 19 since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. 20 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse.
This reminded me of what yeni said before. She said that God shows himself to you in many ways but most of the time, people dont see it. God is always trying to show himself to you but were the ones that arent letting him do so. We all say that it's hard to believe in Jesus becauyse we can't see him and we dont' have proof. I think that yes, it is hard, but if we really tried to see him we would be able to. Yeni said all we have to do is ask. If we ask God, he will definately make himself more evident in your life through perfroming small and large miracles and he knows you inside and out, so he will never not be able to make you notice him. Its so easy to get and at the same time it's so hard to see Him. I don't know if that made sense... BUT it made sense to me! so yeah!
goodnight everyone!! cheers
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Re: Romans 1

Post  DunNo on Tue Feb 01, 2011 2:23 am

Jeez... went boarding... so tired...

So what I thought about Romans 1 is that Paul is trying to explain to everyone what he thought about the Roman world at that time, and, in a way, how they should act towards God, and what reality is taking place.

12 that is, that you and I may be mutually encouraged by each other's faith
this verse shows how that even when we're sharing the gospel, it should still not be a one way relationship. Like how God love you and wants you to love you back, we should strengthen each other's faiths through God. What I feel that holds back many christians from sharing the gospel is because of fear of being rejected. Like Joseph stated earlier, there aren't many Christians who will openly stand up to their faith anywhere but church, but I feel that is what holds us back. In this first section, he outlines how we should live as Christians for God. Later, he explains what we are doing wrong.

32 Although they know God's righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.
This verse explains our "real" relationship with god instead of the ideal one. God trusts us to be faithful, but as soon as he turns around, we betray him by sinning. And in other verses, it explains how God offers us forgiveness, for our faith, but we continue in our sinful ways. This verse really kinda kicked my arse, telling me to get off my bum and start trying to live a more Godly life, offering my faith, and leaving my sinful life behind me. It also is telling us to "wake" others up, instead of just letting other people living in sin live that way. We should always try to advance out of sin and into righteousness, but also help others to come with us into our faith.


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Re: Romans 1

Post  julian on Tue Feb 01, 2011 8:09 pm

My bad..... I guess I didn't check my email hard enough. Sorry guys, I had a gig yesterday, but I know I should've done it anyway.

Anyway, here's my devotion for Romans 1. Smile

The first phrase that jumps out from this verse would be 'set apart' - recalling Moses' definition as to what holiness is, it's to BE set apart for God... just something I guess that reminded me a little bit.
I'm not completely sure, but I think that there was some sort of a Jewish supremacy and a Gentile inferiority. If someone knows more, feel free to add... it's something that gets me to verse 6, saying that the gentiles are also called to belong to Christ; basically, no matter who someone is, regardless of their rank in the world, we're all tools of Christ Jesus.
I remember Sam always starting off his sermons with the phrase from Paul's letters - Grace and peace to you from God! (Well, Grace to you in peace, as far as I remember him saying it, haha)

The best way I would describe Paul in one word would be reborn. Saul was born as both Jewish, therefore strong in power, and also Greek, therefore being wise in all of the scriptures. He was a pharisee and KNEW everything about God but didn't have any sort of an intimate relationship with God - he went so far as to persecute the ones who followed Christ; people saw him as crazy, but he became a completely different person once he met Christ. He FELT God's presence, not just KNOWING God - that's why he felt so compelled to constantly preach the message and persevered through all of that. He was that kind of a man.

I mean, looking at my everyday school life, I often debate with a Wiccan friend of mine (yes, Wiccans DO exist). I constantly brought up the issue with the buddy I lead fellowship at school with, wondering what can I really do but debate... It's still something I want to show, but looking at what Paul did in spite of everything that happened, I feel a little more confident to talk more about what I've experienced and to share, if he does ask... it's something I'm still praying for. Sorry for going off of a tangent!

Note also that the Gospel was something that was 'good news of Christ', just as Moses described it. However, the Jews today still wait for the Messiah - this tells me that the gospel wasn't accepted by most of the Jews - simply, it wasn't favored by popular opinion. Most people tend to go by what others say is the right thing - which explains what things we do, what clothes do we wear, and how we even talk - I'm sure Paul struggled telling the gospel even though it wasn't accepted by society. It really related back to a verse in Romans 12:2 (which we'll read later).

Now, there's the sad side of things that can be pretty depressing at first. In my case, I really took it into my heart.

God's judgement WILL come. That's certain. I mean, no one in the church - no person on earth but Christ Jesus is perfect. We all falter in some way, whether we're 99% close or whether we're 1% close. There always will be some form of wickedness or cruelty in us, just because it's human nature. Like it says in verse 20, we're all without excuse, no matter where we are. I never found this depressing, but more of a reminder. But the next thing REALLY made it clear to me.

I think that verses 21 to 23 REALLY demonstrate how important leading by example is. No matter how good we are musically as a team, it doesn't matter. WORSHIP becomes first, above all things, and if we keep having these sinful thoughts that don't do anything for God's glory, then aren't we leading in such a shameful way? I guess it's a great reminder to show that our hearts REALLY need to be settled for worship - to only think about God in all that we really do. And I think THAT's the honour of leading worship - to be with the congregation and to serve God in anyway that we can. But that gives us more responsibility. I mean, Sam told me that whenever it came to judgement, the preachers and the leaders would be judged first - why? We're given such power to use for God's glory and nothing more.

24 is something I really don't want to go into, but 25 is something important. Is it the creator, or creation? The way I see it, most of us would say creation. It's something that I call 'concrete'. We can eat it, touch it, smell it, feel it, and all that. Our creator though is what I call 'abstract' - something that CAN'T be experienced with these 5 senses. When it comes to something you're more dependent on versus something that you feel at certain times, we just tend to worship creation. I mean, we fact it daily - the computer, the cell phone, and even our instruments...

The last part really deals with how we really KNOW what God wants but choose not to follow it and sin anyway - simply, DEPRAVITY. Sam also mentioned this SEVERAL times - no matter how 'good' we think we are, no one's really good. There's always something bad that we do. One of my honest problems is lying, and I do it anyway. Had Jesus not come, I'm sure I'd be dead countless times over and over again.

- Jules.
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Re: Romans 1

Post  Grace on Tue Feb 01, 2011 11:35 pm

gahhh sorry guys, my laptops been really messed
BUT i did do my devos and im going to post both today~ sorry again
and also, it looks like Julian beat me in length.... by a lot... HAHAHAHA Razz

okay, so in this chapter i dont have any specific verses like i usually do, but the message was really clear and strong to me.
near the end of the chapter, it starts talking about how people are proud, conceited, boastful, disrespecting their parents and etc. basically doing despicable things in the eyes of God, and whats worse, we can all do that, even though we know God doesnt like it.
we're not perfect. no one is. we can slip up and sin, thats a given fact. But we need to try and be more like Jesus, we need to be concious of the fact that God knows our every thought and action.
I'll personally admit that i swear and i get into fights with my parents from time to time..
but this really made me realize that i need to put an effort into change that.
whats the point of saying "ill do that... later..." when we could change that problem now?
I feel ashamed thinking how sad God must be with me sometimes... when i clearly know that swearing is bad, but i do it anyways.. you know?

anyways lets pray for eachother and keep encouraging eachother to be better and please God all day everdayyyyy~ Smile
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Re: Romans 1

Post  Billy Kim on Wed Feb 02, 2011 2:35 am

Hey guys, I didn't Read the email till now so I forgot to do it ma bad niggas...
so here I go~

16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel, because it is the power of God that brings salvation to everyone who believes: first to the Jew, then to the Gentile.

When I read this verse, I asked myself this question. How many people are embarrassed to say that they are worshipers of Christ. How many people will admit to the whole world that they believe Jesus died on the cross and resurrected. Honestly, I think a lot of people are ashamed to admit that they are Christians and we should take pride in our relationship with God. In church when you see people that aren't singing or even clapping because they are afraid what other people might think about them are ashamed of being Christian. Not only them but I think we need to know that we should never be afraid to show people that we are Christians and be proud of having a relationship with God. Just like Yeni said, Worshiping God is the greatest Honour.

Verses 18 to 31 was such a big shock to me honestly.

I knew all these things were happening around the world all the time but reading about it put those things in such a different view for me. It actually made me be ashamed of myself. I shared this with you guys before about how we grew soo far away from God that we have to call on to him. This chapter helped me to understand much more as to why this happened. Sin was just built into our nature and that made us cling onto darkness...
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Re: Romans 1

Post  Esther on Wed Feb 02, 2011 6:10 pm

Oooo~
First devo ever..
Sorry it took so long to get started. I didn't get the message until Tuesday night. :$
I hope I'm doing this right.

10b and I pray that now at last by God’s will the way may be opened for me to come to you.
This verse reminded me of what Sam said on Sunday about the man who that moved from church to church, mission to mission.
He was meddling with what God had planned for him. God knows the perfect time for things to happen. (Why else would God have made the people of Egypt, go through ten plagues before the Pharaoh let the Israelites go? He could have just made the Pharaoh let them go before the Egyptians had to go through the suffering that they did. *Exodus 7-11*) God never told us to trust in our ways. He told us to trust in him.

14 I am obligated both to Greeks and non-Greeks, both to the wise and the foolish.
I feel like this is something not many Christians think about; especially with there being so many different branches of Christianity and the many focuses of them. So many people think that the ones who come to us and tell us they want to know God, should be helped. Everyone deserves to know God, whether you're athiest, believed in a different religion, are poor or rich, homosexual, or are ill.

And I leave, to the next devo, with a smiling afro guy. (:
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Romans 1

Post  Paul 폴 on Wed Feb 02, 2011 10:31 pm

Sweet~
This is my first ever devo, so bare with me here. >.<

6: And you also are among those who are called to belong to Jesus Christ.
This is a short verse, but it means a lot, when you look at it from a specific point of view. I chose this verse 'cause it explains our task in life and what we must do, but some peops don't believe in Jesus Christ and that he's just an Idol who brainwashes us to praise & worship him. I think Christians like us, who has friends that doesn't even want to here the name Jesus or listen about him, need to take a big responsibility and show them that Jesus Christ wants them praising him and that he called us to be here before him. This passage defines our career in life, I think, 'cause peops don't believe in him, and therefore, it's our mission to bring them back and tell them to ask for forgiveness to carry on the word for Christ, the Lord.

32: Although they know God's righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.
When I read this passage over and over again, it felt as if God was watching my every move and the more I kept sinning about the same things, the more He got frustrated about my wrong doings. I put myself in His shoes to see what it feels like, and I was terrified of Him, 'cause I saw the frustration and felt the depression within God. This passage was like a reminder to me that whenever you do something wrong, ask for forgiveness and learn from that, 'cause sometimes peops forget to do these stuff everyday.

All right, onto the next one~~~ XD
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